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Schatten: Chapter 01 (Page 002) by AiriKanda Schatten: Chapter 01 (Page 002) by AiriKanda
My lovelies, here's the second page of Schatten - how do you like it? Please, let me know!

So this is it, the project has officially started and I'm so thrilled to finally show you guys our work! I'm not going to give away anything of the story yet though, you'll just have to carry on reading. Please, stay tuned! :heart: I would love to hear your opinion on the whole project and hope you're gonna like it. Page 03 is coming soon, I'm working on it!

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Artwork © Maja Vallazza
Story © Dennis Hoover

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RaikaiRan Featured By Owner May 11, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Die Art, wie du die Szene inszenierst hast, hat was. Besonders die Augen sind sehr gut gelungen. Der Blick im vorletzten Pannel verrät einiges über seine Persönlichkeit. Auch dein Zeichenstil ist sehr gut. Im dritten Pannel wirkt der Hals, als wäre er aus Gummi. Du musst die Linie nicht in einem durchziehen. Setze sie mal ab und mach die Konturen etwas kantig. Dass lässt den Hals natürlicher wirken.
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AiriKanda Featured By Owner May 12, 2013  Professional
Das freut mich sehr zu hören, dankeschön! :) Das macht mich natürlich ungemein glücklich, wow. Und das mit dem Hals glaub ich dir, da bin ich manchmal ein bisschen zu schnell unterwegs. Vielen Dank auch für die Kritik, ich werde versuchen, es in Zukunft besser zu machen!
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RaikaiRan Featured By Owner May 13, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Helfe doch gerne :D
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AiriKanda Featured By Owner May 13, 2013  Professional
Yay! :tighthug:
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Riemea Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
So, I'll write in English again, if that's alright with you :) And I'm incredibly sorry this took so long ^^;

First of all, I have to say that I adore your style! It has something very unique and special; it's almost tradtional-looking. I love the way you build up shadows through so many lines; I think that might be where the traditional feel of the pages comes from, together with the textured background and jagged borders.

The overall darkness of the panels makes me wonder where this story is going to go. It makes everything more mysterious, maybe even sad. And the title kind of plays into that theme, too. As I already said I really like your shading technique and style, but I'd advise you to maybe have some clear lightsources and highlights. For example, I'm wondering why there's a rather strong reflection on the car in the first panel, since I don't see other highlights in that panel besides the small light in that one window. Nothing else in that panel has highlights, and it's the same with the, er, don't know the right word, things over the shops in the second (?) panel. They have highlights, but nothing else has. Have you also thought about putting streetlamps into the streets? Because most streets have lamps nowadays :) Staying with lights, Andrea's face in the third (or fourth? Is the top picture supposed to be one or two panels?) panel looks like it's illuminated by a nearby candle. Since your panels are generally on the dark side you have to be careful with the lights.

Then there's the thing with the perspective. Have you tried working with perspective lines yet? Here's what I mean: [link] (A collection of perspective tutorials (self-promotion lol): [link] ). That could help you with drawing perspective.

And I noticed you now seem to draw eyes a bit smaller compared to the last picture I commented on! I think they're looking much better now :) The right eye in the guy's face of the next to last panel is a little to high, but not that much. A great way to spot such things and other anatomy mistakes is to simply mirror the canvas vertically (you can do that with e.g. Photoshop pretty easily). You'll be surprised at what you see!

Finally I have to say I'm pretty interested to see where all of this is going, and how the story and your style will develop. I've made the experience that doing such a project (i.e. illustrating a story) will really help you grow as an artist, so keep up the great work! I'll be following ;)
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VimislikArt Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I like the sketchbook quality of the page; the use of non-geometrical perspective and the fifth panel which acts as a symbolic representation give the page a very intimate quality, like you're peering onto someone's unfinished work.

I wish the jagged borders were pushed a bit to be MORE jagged an unruly, or have more of the grayscale effects come out of the panels - visually I think it's pretty interesting as it is with the slight messiness of the panel borders, and I want more of it!

Very nice stuff!
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AiriKanda Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2013  Professional
Thanks very much for your lovely comment, dear, I'm delighted to hear that you like the style of the pages! :hug: :heart: I'm generally trying to go for a bit of a "messy" style, that's true. I just have a little question concerning the "jagged borders": Do you want me to increase the amount of free-formed, non-traditional panels or are you refering to the straight lines only? Just making sure, I'm no native speaker, you see, so I don't always get all the various meanings of a sentence.

Anyways, I'm so glad you like it, if you're interested you could have a look at the following pages too. "Schatten" is an ongoing Webcomic including weekly updates! :) I'd love to hear your opinion on the other pages too and appreciate it beyond believe.
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VimislikArt Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Free-form! And I'll be sure to check more of the pages out.
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AiriKanda Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2013  Professional
Okay, I see! :) Thanks again for your feedback, I'll make sure I'll bear it in mind. And thanks so much for the watch as well, I'm most grateful for your support! :heart:
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PedroHenrique-2 Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I loved how you make the hair over the piece, trough at first you should probably make it a bit wavier, because no hair is a straight line, also,
you should work better with a perspective grid, there are some obvious mistakes on it.
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AiriKanda Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2013  Professional
Thanks so much for your critique, dear, I highly appreciate it! :tighthug: About the hair: Thanks a lot, I might make Andrea's hair just a bit wavier, no problem! Hihi, yeah, perspective is a bitch sometimes, I struggle with it, but I'll try to improve too. Anyway, I hope you like it, in case you're interested feel free to stay tuned! :heart: I'd love to hear your opinion on the following pages too.
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neonparrot Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Is this the last page you've finished by this moment?
Sorry for being so long with my comment, I was quite busy. But late is better, than never :lol:
I have to say, you have a very unique style and I love it. It looks like manga, but not really manga, and some elements and details remind me those high-quality illustrations in childern's books. I like your colour choice a lot, too. It gives a nice atmosphere of something warm, sad, and mysterious. The way you tell the story is interesting, too. I don't know much about styles in english language, but this seems pretty.
About the flaws - almost on every frame and picture on this comic eyes are a way too different. Yes, human face isn't perfect, but they look too strange. Did you try to flip your image after sketching? It's a very nice way to notice flaws your eye can't catch while drawing regulary. As I heard, it's because your eyes are getting used to the picture when you draw it and miss the symmetry. And the letters. On some frames they're unable to see, because the colour is dark and the background is dark, too. And the font isn't appropriate for such genre, in my opinion, I'd recommend you something more... strict and newspaper-ish.
And I'm unable to finish my comments in a good way. Just keep up good work!
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AiriKanda Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013  Professional
Indeed it is! :) But more to come soon, of course. And don't ever worry, I'm quite busy and, therefore, slow too. I'm happy that you've managed to write me at all, so indeed nevermind! :heart:

Thank you so much, I'm delighted to hear that you like my style so much, that's so great, I'm all speechless! :love: And I'm so happy about your impression too, indeed that's what I'm going for. I prefer to create my very own style that is influenced by manga but not completely manga, mixed with other influences and styles of art. Thanks especially for the comparison with high-quality illustrations, I'm deeply flattered!

So you think I should continue colouring and shading like that? Excellent! :dummy: Warm, sad and mysterious are definitely emotions I'm going for, so if you have impressions like that I'm glad. Hihi, the text isn't written by me, it's all Dennis' work, but I'm sure he'll be glad to hear that you appreciate his style of storytelling so much! That's lovely.

Love, I truly appreciate your critique, but there is a part that I don't quite understand and that's the one with "eyes are way too different" and "they look too strange". Maybe it's because I'm not that good at English, but I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. Do you mean I draw eyes not pretty enough or somehow anatomically wrong? Or don't you like the faces in general? I just wanna know, no matter what it is I'm delighted to hear it so that I can improve my style of drawing! Concerning your advice, I will definitely make sure to flip my pages more often to explore the mistakes, thanks very much! :dummy: I'll make sure to bear that in mind and not get used to my mistakes too much. Oh okay, you don't like the font? I'll talk to Dennis about it (he chose the font, so yeah).

Thanks so much, I will try my hardest! :heart:
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neonparrot Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I mean that eyes are anatomically placed not right. Like one is rotated or placed lower, than another, etc.
I'm glad I could help!
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AiriKanda Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013  Professional
Ah, I see! :) Thanks a lot for explaining, dear, you definitely helped me a lot.
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Glitza Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Student General Artist
It's so lovely! I love the shading and the copper tone. I love the texture of the paper it's on. It adds to this dark mysterious mood and it's almost like reading an old text. The layout of the panels are also nicely done and the eyes at the end are my favorite! I'm intrigued.
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AiriKanda Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013  Professional
Thank you so much, dear, I'm very happy that you're so fond of the shading, it took me a long while and I'm glad you approve of the end look! :heart: I'm also very satisfied to hear that you've got such impressions from reading it, that's so great, reading your opinion about it makes my day. As I said, thank you so much, I would be honoured if you'd stay tuned for the following pages! :tighthug:
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Astro-Creep166 Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
This is very good so far, I'm gonna have to watch for more pages :)
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AiriKanda Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2013  Professional
Thank you so much, I'm delighted you like it! :tighthug: Thanks so much for the watch as well, you totally made my day, dear.
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Ximeon Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Der mit den langen Haaren beginnt mir immer mehr zu gefallen.:dance:
Bin schon ganz gespannt wie es weiter geht, die Textzeilen die ich bis jetzt gelesen habe, deuten auf eine besonders Mysteriöse und unheimliche Geschichte hin.;) Somit freue ich mich schon auf die dritte Seite.:D Viel Spaß beim weiterzeichnen.^^
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AiriKanda Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Professional
Episch! :dance: Dann habe ich ihn so hingekriegt, wie ich es gehofft hatte! :heart: Ja, das ist der Plan, mysteriös, unheimlich - ein düsterer Mystery-Comic mit Horror- und vielleicht auch den ein oder anderen dezenten Romance-Elementen, jedenfalls arbeiten Dennis und ich zurzeit in diese Richtung. Für die Geschichte ist ja vor allem er verantwortlich, ich zeichne und gestalte dagegen eher die Szenen nach seiner Vorlage! :D :heart: Jedenfalls freue ich mich ungemein, dass du dich freust - vielen, vielen Dank nochmal!
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Ximeon Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ja, definitiv.:D Ich denke, dass die Zusammenarbeit mit Dennis Hoover genau das ist, was diesen Manga/Comic besonders machen wird.;) Alleine hättest du viel mehr Arbeit.

Ich arbeite ja zur Zeit auch an der Story eines Mangas. Wenn einmal die Charakterkonzepte alle stehen, wird :iconlatedaybreak: anfangen zu zeichnen, bis es soweit ist, kann es allerdings noch eine halbe Ewigkeit dauern. Trotzdem freue ich mich schon darauf irgendwann was davon zu veröffentlichen.:)

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AiriKanda Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2013  Professional
Das denke ich auch, hihi! :D Er ist wirklich ein begabter Autor und ich bin wirklich happy, dass er sich dazu bereiterklärt hat, dieses Projekt mit mir zu starten. Und ja, das stimmt definitiv, wenn ich alles allein machen müsste, würde dieses Projekt bestimmt doppelt so lang brauchen! So hingegen kommen wir eigentlich ganz gut vom Fleck, finde ich.

Ehrlich? Das ist ja superspannend!! :dummy: Musst du mir dann unbedingt bescheid sagen, sobald der fertig ist! Bin schon sehr, sehr gespannt. :heart:

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Ximeon Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Wenn es dann auch noch Spaß macht, kann es besser nicht sein, oder?;)

Natürlich werde ich dir bescheid sagen, wenn es soweit ist. Ich möchte schließlich deine, für mich sehr wichtige, Meinung dazu hören;) aber wie gesagt, das kann noch eine halbe Ewigkeit dauern.^^;
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AiriKanda Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Professional
Definitiv. Ich hoffe, wir bleiben so produktiv wie bisher. Dennis hat mir ja gestern angekündigt, dass er in nächster Zeit recht viele wichtige Dinge zu tun hat... Da hoffe ich natürlich, dass er auch Zeit zum Schreiben finden wird und das Projekt nicht darunter leidet! :) Weil vom Graphischen her wäre z.B. Seite drei fast fertig. Aber ich bin eigentlich guter Dinge, kommen wird der Nachschub nämlich auf jeden Fall! Das steht fest.

Yay, das freut mich irre! :dummy: Deine Meinung ist mir auch sehr wichtig. :heart: Ach was, Zeit spielt für mich keine Rolle, ich bin ein sehr geduldiger Mensch. Nur mich selbst setzte ich gern mal unter Druck, aber sonst bin ich eigentlich total relaxed und freue mich auf das, was kommt! :D
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MichaelSchwob Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013
I love the sepia!(:
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AiriKanda Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Professional
Thank you so much! :)
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MichaelSchwob Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013
no problem (:
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AiriKanda Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Professional
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lucyfire71 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
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Wie machts du das Ganze?
Ich meine, scribbelst du deine Panels und er segnet sie dann ab?
Oder lässt er sich überraschen?
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AiriKanda Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Professional
DANKESCHÖN!! :heart:

So ähnlich. :) Zunächst schreibt Dennis ja immer die Vorlage, also die Geschichte mit den Szenenbeschreibungen und Dialogen. Auf Basis dessen fertige ich dann ein oder mehrere Scribble/s an, das/die wir beide dann anschließend durchsprechen. Dann mache ich mich ans eigentliche Zeichnen und bespreche das Produkt dann wieder mit ihm und sobald dann alles passt, wird's hochgeladen. :dummy: Fazit: Nichts wird ohne den anderen einfach so beschlossen oder gemacht. Wir versuchen uns gegenseitig so viel wie möglich einzubeziehen, so dass keiner von uns zum Angestellten des anderen wird und wir beide gleich viel Spaß und Mitspracherecht haben!
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lucyfire71 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Gerne :glomp:

das ist gut, dass ihr so eng zusammenarbeitet. Dann wird es richtig was werden :dummy:
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AiriKanda Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Professional
Das hoffe ich sehr! :hug: Bin aber guter Dinge, momentan klappt die Zusammenarbeit nämlich wirklich super! :heart:
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lucyfire71 Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Dann wird es auch so werden :hooray:
Fest dran glauben und gemeinsam in dieselbe Richtung sehen!
:D
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AiriKanda Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Professional
Sehe ich genauso! :tighthug: Yay! :woohoo:
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